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#106: Systems, Outcomes, and a Generational Shift in Design

April 16th, 2021 · 42 minutes

Special guest Sheryl Cababa. She’s the Vice President of Strategy for Seattle-based agency Substantial, and we’re going to talk about how a systems-thinking approach focused on outcomes can benefit the work designers do, and the influence they have.

Guest Starring: Sheryl Cababa

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