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August 6th, 2019 · 86 minutes
Money is in the air! Apple's making more of it on wearables and services and less on the iPhone, and its credit card is starting to roll out. We also have some follow up on Siri surveillance and Catalina security, and make a very long-term bet.
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Not WWDC, the Apple Card was unveiled in March! Whoops.