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    #555: What You Are Is What You Ship

    March 17th, 2025 · 132 minutes

    John Siracusa joins Jason to discuss Apple interface redesigns, Apple's ongoing AI disasters, the management challenges of Siri, and Jason's reviews of the new MacBook Air and Mac Studio.

    Guest Starring: John Siracusa

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    Links and Show Notes

    Apple (AAPL) Readies Dramatic Design Overhauls for iOS 19, iPadOS 19, macOS 16 - Bloomberg
    Apple AI’s Platform Pivot Potential – Stratechery by Ben Thompson
    Two Minutes Hate - Wikipedia
    Apple’s (AAPL) Siri Chief Calls AI Delays Ugly and Embarrassing, Promises Fixes - Bloomberg
    M4 MacBook Air review: Am I blue? – Six Colors
    M4 Max Mac Studio review: A familiar face – Six Colors